tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3386976829639042251.post6673444078133724266..comments2023-09-11T06:22:41.615-07:00Comments on Black Diaspora: Not Free Unless the Courts Agree!Black Diasporahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08890792781361839105noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3386976829639042251.post-51955845783685841872011-04-02T14:30:58.778-07:002011-04-02T14:30:58.778-07:00"A 'Progressive-Fundamentalist' is me..."A 'Progressive-Fundamentalist' is merely a person who sees his IDEOLOGY as the fix for all that ails society. NO AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY is acceptable."<br /><br />If your definition holds up, can we presuppose a counterweight to the people you've identified--say, the existence of Conservative-Fundamentalists?<br /><br />"BD you set up a condition in which YOUR ideology is the answer and thus you set forth a "Permanent Struggle" against an ADVERSARY that is always inches away from your grasp."<br /><br />I've said this before in response to a similar claim: I have no "ideology." I have no "adversaries." I'm in no "struggle."<br /><br />"Instead, BD, I see that there is a need to define some UNIVERSAL PERMANENT INTERESTS by which both of us can SUBMIT TO as a means of appraising the EFFECTIVENESS of our competing ideological tool sets."<br /><br />What would be the point: There <i>are</i> no political, social or economic answers for what ails society or the world for that matter.<br /><br />Anyone who tells you that there are human solutions to human problems haven't examined our collective history over our many millenia.<br /><br />Here's what I advocate: Since real solutions continue to evade us, let's do as little harm to ourselves and our planet as is possible. We can do that by making life, and all that supports life our primary aim, our main cause, and our chief occupation.<br /><br />To do less will render this planet inhospitable to life, and future generations will suffer greatly for our ineptness, and indifference.<br /><br />Can we at least agree on this set of "ideological tools"? It's the "course correction" that will assure our own--now becoming--very fragile survival as a species, and preserve the planet for all life forms.<br /><br />We're doing enormous damage to the planet. Unless that is stopped, we won't have a planet upon which we can continue our evolution--a world that, I might add, is perfect for that purpose.Black Diasporahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08890792781361839105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3386976829639042251.post-70819510731054462212011-04-02T03:59:21.316-07:002011-04-02T03:59:21.316-07:00Black Diaspora:
I have learned that I should not ...Black Diaspora:<br /><br />I have learned that I should not hope to change your view that Sarah Palin (and her ilk) IS the Problem With America (and that people with YOUR IDEOLOGY just happen to be the solution).<br /><br />Instead, BD, I see that there is a need to define some UNIVERSAL PERMANENT INTERESTS by which both of us can SUBMIT TO as a means of appraising the EFFECTIVENESS of our competing ideological tool sets.<br /><br />I am less troubled that Black Progressive-Fundamentalist blogs focus on Sarah Palin and the line up of Fox News and Republican threats (go look at Field Negro's blog today)than I am that their MODEL OF THE WORLD is so askew from the force that ACTUALLY BEAR DOWN UPON OUR COMMUNITY.<br /><br />The fact that they have no interest in constructing an REPRESENTATIVE model which defines their management priorities in their efforts to correct their course merely shows that they are more interested in promoting their IDEOLOGY than they are in course correction.<br /><br />What does the new US Census numbers documenting the migration patterns of Black people say to you? They are moving out of the 'mission accomplished cities' into areas where their ideological enemies dominate the scene.Constructive Feedbackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688506284767709555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3386976829639042251.post-9937540838010736042011-04-02T03:46:38.829-07:002011-04-02T03:46:38.829-07:00[quote]The conflation of the two terms creates a c...[quote]The conflation of the two terms creates a confusion as to your meaning. Can you elaborate on how you're using them? <br />[/quote]<br /><br />My dear friend Black Diaspora:<br /><br />Your closed mind has you unable to accept the clear meaning of the word in question.<br /><br />A "Progressive-Fundamentalist" is merely a person who sees his IDEOLOGY as the fix for all that ails society. NO AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY is acceptable. <br /><br />Even when there is a "Mission Accomplished Zone" (See PBS "Need To Know" on Camden and other failed cities) in which his ideology is the last man standing yet fails to deliver - the unanticipated consequences are blamed on EXTERNAL conservative forces. This merely keeps the masses looking PAST the institution that they just took control over, engaging them into a perpetual outward expansion - benefiting the POLITICAL joint-venture partner who receives the benefit of your grievances.<br /><br />BD you set up a condition in which YOUR ideology is the answer and thus you set forth a "Permanent Struggle" against an ADVERSARY that is always inches away from your grasp.Constructive Feedbackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688506284767709555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3386976829639042251.post-63571404085093320072011-04-02T00:27:28.573-07:002011-04-02T00:27:28.573-07:00@CF: "assist me in understanding the Progress...@CF: "assist me in understanding the Progressive-Fundamentalist mind"<br /><br />progressive: "A person who actively favors or strives for progress toward better conditions, as in society or government."<br /><br />fundamentalist: "Since the late 1970s fundamentalists have embraced electoral and legislative politics and the 'electronic church' in their fight against perceived threats to traditional religious values: so-called secular humanism, Communism, feminism, legalized abortion, homosexuality, and the ban on school prayer."<br /><br />The conflation of the two terms creates a confusion as to your meaning. Can you elaborate on how you're using them? <br /><br />Nevertheless, I'm afraid I don't fall within a tidy niche, and for that reason alone you'll never fully understand me.<br /><br />Sarah Palin, as well as the others I've mentioned, are symptomatic of what's wrong with this country.<br /><br />Rather than pursuing a "progressive" agenda as defined above, they opportunistically cater to an ideology that advances their own narrow, self-indulgent, self-aggrandizing cause, at the expense of this country.<br /><br />We both know that the Republican party has one goal, and one goal only, and that is <i>one-party</i> rule. <br /><br />It will fail. <br /><br />"Is there any sort of IDEOLOGICAL filtering that takes place among Progressive-Fundamentalists that has you all to 'pull up'?"<br /><br />I'm not following you here. I can't speak for all progressives (In truth, I'm not one actually, but something beyond that definition.), but I have no "ideological filtering." <br /><br />Ideology is limiting, and will, over time, self-destruct. No ideology can embrace all life situations that might arise, and will be seen as impotent when potency is required.<br /><br />If I were to adopt an "ideology" and a "politics" it would be Life itself, and, secondarily, a maintenance and protection of all that which manifests it--a concept I'm sure that's too radical even for you.Black Diasporahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08890792781361839105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3386976829639042251.post-12088490899739104752011-04-01T14:43:00.921-07:002011-04-01T14:43:00.921-07:00[quote]Corporations can continue, without fear of ...[quote]Corporations can continue, without fear of reprisal, to spend massive amounts of money to influence the outcome of elections and the viability of certain legislation; Sara Palin, the run-away Alaskan governor, can continue to insist that President Obama "pals around with terrorists;"[1] Mike Huckabee, an ordained minister, can continue to say falsely (forgetting: "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.") that president Obama grew up in Kenya and was heavily influenced by his father and grandfather who opposed British imperialism;[2] and Michele Bachmann, the flower of American patriotism, can continue to cast the president as un-American, and his administration as "gangster-"like.[3]<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Black Diaspora:<br /><br />You have no idea how valuable reading the words of:<br /><br />* You<br />* Filled Negro<br />* Chauncey DeVega<br /><br />assist me in understanding the Progressive-Fundamentalist mind.<br /><br />I mean - here we are as a "Black diaspora", digesting the reality that the US Census and the imposition of certain economic theories have meant - and yet, for some inexplicable reason SARAH PALIN and other favorite targets appear in your commentary.<br /><br />SERIOUS MAN, Brother to Brother - help me to understand. Here I am, reading the article from journalist Jack White in which he accepts the justification of Obama for bombing Libya. The first several paragraphs of the article ARE NOT focused on:<br /><br />* Obama<br />* The People Of Libya<br />* The American Imperialism in Africa<br /><br />but instead SARAH PALIN!!!!<br /><br /><br />BRO!!! Sarah Palin just got her PASSPORT 2 years ago AND NEVER EVEN SET FOOT ON THE MOTHERLAND.<br /><br />Is there any sort of IDEOLOGICAL filtering that takes place among Progressive-Fundamentalists that has you all to "pull up"?Constructive Feedbackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688506284767709555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3386976829639042251.post-61647126417096855152011-03-20T16:21:46.370-07:002011-03-20T16:21:46.370-07:00@Blinders Off: "Good post...when you have som...@Blinders Off: "Good post...when you have some time check this video out...."<br /><br />Thanks Blinders Off. I'll check out the video.Black Diasporahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08890792781361839105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3386976829639042251.post-89207463556919074862011-03-17T20:30:00.769-07:002011-03-17T20:30:00.769-07:00Hi BD,
Good post...when you have some time check ...Hi BD,<br /><br />Good post...when you have some time check this video out or better yet order it from Amazon.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-CrNlilZhoBlinders Offhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03109286529955936165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3386976829639042251.post-63111742810392503592011-03-11T17:02:26.867-08:002011-03-11T17:02:26.867-08:00"I just watched that video and it's disgu..."I just watched that video and it's disgusting."<br /><br />My reaction as well. The power elites are in the driver's seat at the moment, and they want to keep it that way.<br /><br />I watched a video recently. Apparently G.W. Bush was at a GOP fundraiser. He said half jokingly and half seriously, and I paraphrase: <br /><br /><i>"There're the haves and the have mores. Some people call them the power elite, but we call them our base."</i><br /><br />That statement says it all. <br /><br />"The crosshairs in the middle of all of this is our democracy as this situation leaves those with money in total control and a radical departure from past policies is not going to occur...."<br /><br />So true. Our democracy is under assault, both inside and outside our government. <br /><br />The conflation of the two forces almost assures its defeat. I'm going to blog about this in the near future.<br /><br />The Republican party is on a trajectory that it plotted years ago. What we're seeing now is a fulfillment of an agenda--radical to be sure--which, if successful, will further their conservative-Utopian vision for America.Black Diasporahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08890792781361839105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3386976829639042251.post-1912652638921543862011-03-11T11:23:50.253-08:002011-03-11T11:23:50.253-08:00BD,
I just watched that video and it's disgus...BD,<br /><br />I just watched that video and it's disgusting. Brown is like a little kid in class raising his hand so he can be called on by the teacher. Koch is just sitting back and watching the "pupil" try to get his attention. It's similar to the spoof pulled on the Wisconsin governor as well where the guy calls up pretending to be one of the Koch's.<br /><br />In many ways, this isn't so much about campaign financing so much as climbing the career ladder. These guys know that if they do the bidding of their backers, a place is going to be found for them even if they happen to lose an election. The crosshairs in the middle of all of this is our democracy as this situation leaves those with money in total control and a radical departure from past policies is not going to occur-- and radical departures from a lot of stuff is precisely what's needed right now.Greg Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16130586577590547845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3386976829639042251.post-29181214853095802962011-03-09T23:42:13.964-08:002011-03-09T23:42:13.964-08:00@Greg L
If you haven't seen the video with Sc...@Greg L<br /><br />If you haven't seen the video with Scott Brown appealing to one of the Koch brothers (begging actually) to continue funding his run for the senate in 2012, click on [6] in the reference section of my blog entry.<br /><br />It's the video after the Waxman one.Black Diasporahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08890792781361839105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3386976829639042251.post-30148407376853915912011-03-09T23:28:54.625-08:002011-03-09T23:28:54.625-08:00"I just lost a rather lengthy comment here wh..."I just lost a rather lengthy comment here when I changed google accounts."<br /><br />My loss. It would have been great to read your first thoughts on this. <br /><br />Sometimes I remember and sometimes I don't, to save my comment before publishing. I have lost some of my best comments that way. :)<br /><br />"As to Palin, Bachman and Huckabee, they represent little more than an idiot diversion to pollute the nation's political discourse."<br /><br />I keep thinking: What does that say about those Americans to whom their remarks are directed?<br /><br />We're all being played, forced to take sides in a game that's rigged against our better interest.<br /><br />We're so busy playing to win the game for our side that we don't notice the other game, the more serious game, that's being played in the background, yet in plain view, which has graver consequences if we lose.<br /><br />I'm hoping that what is going on in Wisconsin will awaken people to the real threat to our democracy.<br /><br />For too long too many people have allowed the purveyors of fear, hatred, and bigotry (another deadly triad) to manipulate national and local events, and to consume the national dialog.<br /><br />"Unfortunately, that overlay extends to our politics as well. And that's the main reason why America is in a whole heap of trouble."<br /><br />And I see no way to extricate ourselves short of scrapping the whole thing and starting over again.Black Diasporahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08890792781361839105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3386976829639042251.post-19107300888435389262011-03-09T19:06:09.427-08:002011-03-09T19:06:09.427-08:00Forgot to check the box for follow-up commentsForgot to check the box for follow-up commentsGreg Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16130586577590547845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3386976829639042251.post-47029324834826042402011-03-09T19:05:13.088-08:002011-03-09T19:05:13.088-08:00BD,
I just lost a rather lengthy comment here whe...BD,<br /><br />I just lost a rather lengthy comment here when I changed google accounts. Even though I know that's happened to many, that doesn't lessen my frustration. <br /><br />Anyway, the Westboro people are crazy and I agree with Schieffer. People need to do whatever they must to keep these people at bay. <br /><br />As to Palin, Bachman and Huckabee, they represent little more than an idiot diversion to pollute the nation's political discourse. Huckabee has appropriated a page from Gingrich's book with the Kenyan references. I suspect that they've formed a focus group to determine which words would cause the most visceral emotional response to Obama and apparently, "Kenyan" works better than "Muslim". I expect we'll begin hearing that reference more frequently.<br /><br />This little troika plays to what the American public has been socialized to accept as information; the titillating, trite and stupid. When you're playing to those things, truth or some level of thoughtful analysis is out the door. Unfortunately, that overlay extends to our politics as well. And that's the main reason why America is in a whole heap of trouble.Greg Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16130586577590547845noreply@blogger.com